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Post by Beatende on Aug 26, 2009 11:51:55 GMT -5
I still wouldn't listen to deathcore over most of the bands discussed in this thread.
I'd rather listen to Power Pop bands like The Posies (who are frankly fucking awesome) and even mainstream bands like Foo Fighters than stick on Deathcore.
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Post by Dan on Aug 26, 2009 12:26:57 GMT -5
Doesn't matter how long Weezer have being going, to my ears they're equally as vomit inspiringly crap as Wheatus.
Coincidentally about a year ago my mate's band opened for Wheatus, they've been reduced to Stoke Uni Bar, and they apparently didn't even play. He said the drummer was using an electric kit that wasn't turned on, and none of the guitars were even plugged in. Haha.
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Post by Beatende on Aug 26, 2009 15:22:52 GMT -5
Doesn't matter how long Weezer have being going, to my ears they're equally as vomit inspiringly crap as Wheatus. Coincidentally about a year ago my mate's band opened for Wheatus, they've been reduced to Stoke Uni Bar, and they apparently didn't even play. He said the drummer was using an electric kit that wasn't turned on, and none of the guitars were even plugged in. Haha. Doesn't surprise me about Wheatus. They were about as pointles as bands like American Hi-Fi or Good Charlotte (except that GC can actually play live). Dunno what you listened to by Weezer, but tbh while some of their stuff may be twee-ish, They're completely different from Wheatus. Infinitely more interesting and creative. I suppose it's a bit like somebody not into metal listening to Annotations of an Autopsy and asking what the difference is between that and the more rhythm based parts of later Morbid Angel stuff or other DM bands. In other entirely necessary news: img144.imageshack.us/img144/9641/bringmeanautopsy1si7.jpg |
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Post by Nickyboi on Aug 29, 2009 9:26:37 GMT -5
Some people may or may not agree with me on this, but I think of Smashing Pumpkins as the godfathers of emo. And I bloody love them.
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Post by Beatende on Aug 29, 2009 13:57:37 GMT -5
Some people may or may not agree with me on this, but I think of Smashing Pumpkins as the godfathers of emo. And I bloody love them. I don't agree, but the reason I don't agree is because the original emo bands evolved out of the Hardcore punk scene, Whereas the pumpkins started as a New Wave band and then became proggy grunge rock. The problem with trying to debate this is that after a while the bands all disappear up their own sub-genre. |
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Post by Nickyboi on Aug 30, 2009 8:10:20 GMT -5
I'm talking more broadly about the aesthetic, and the diometric opposition of musical and lyrical tones ("Today" is a great example of a song in a major key with very minor key lyrics). Plus, the fella from My Chemical Romance looks a lot like Billy Corgan.
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Post by Wayne on Aug 30, 2009 10:20:07 GMT -5
I'd like Billy Corgan to sing to me.
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Post by goddard on Sept 2, 2009 15:57:16 GMT -5
I'd like Billy Corgan to sing to me. wayne, that's lovely. I've only got one posies CD single and I played it to death when I first got it. I've heard frosting on the beater is the album to get, yes? I have a lot of time for Smashing Pumpkins, I saw them at the wolves civic with the verve supporting them. The verve didn't get a very good response, I recall someone heckling inbetween songs, "you're not mick jagger, fuck off" |
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Post by Nickyboi on Sept 2, 2009 16:11:43 GMT -5
I really love The Verve. Well, I love Storm in Heaven and Urban Hymns - the other two are mediocre at best. Storm in Heaven is a fantastic album; I wish I'd seen that gig!
I've got the Vieuphoria DVD which is interesting, but it seems Corgan's vocals really let the show down live. Anyway, his brilliantly downbeat ego-centric whinings are right up my filthy alley, and when I see bands like My Chemical Romance all I can think of is Corgan's influence; the verbose grandeur, the Mellon Collie-era aesthetics, the lot. Maybe they're not tr00 emo, but they're the only emo I'd ever countenance listening to.
Apparently, Brendon Fraiser-lookalike Jimmy Chamberlain has again left the band...
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Post by goddard on Sept 3, 2009 8:23:50 GMT -5
Apparently, Brendon Fraiser-lookalike Jimmy Chamberlain has again left the band... ...and by band you mean Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chaimberlain. Ho hum, the last CD I got by em I can't even remember the title it was that mediocre.  |
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Post by Nickyboi on Sept 3, 2009 8:49:02 GMT -5
Zeitgeist? American Gothic? I only have the former and I think mediocre is a bit generous myself, Doomsday Clock being the only good track on it.
Apparently Corgan has some new stooges now anyway, and if we're all very honest, Smashing Pumpkins at their best is just Corgan being a megalomaniac and layering 60 guitar tracks while James Iha bones D'arcy and Chamberlain smokes ecstacy pipes.
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Post by Beatende on Sept 3, 2009 17:00:58 GMT -5
I've only got one posies CD single and I played it to death when I first got it. I've heard frosting on the beater is the album to get, yes? All the posies albums are pretty good, but the geffen three are the best. Dear 23 is brilliant but a lot more 60's esque. Frosting is an awesome down-beat power-pop album and a bit of a classic IMO. Amazing Disgrace is slightly weaker but there are still some ace tunes. As for the Verve, I've got to say I still love 'em. I thought A Northern Soul was an epic album, considering it's got at least two of their greatest tracks: History and On Your Own. No knock at my door and this is music are all great tracks too though. And I agree about the pumpkins only really being Chamberlain and Corgan. They are a perfect combination, no matter how much they fall out, they worked brilliantly in zwan, even if the songs weren't as good as SP's heyday material. I still liked Lyric and a couple of other tunes off Mary Star of the Sea. The fact is, Corgan is ham-strung without Chamberlain. He's just such a phenomenal drummer and general musician. His contribution to anything he works on never disappoints. (/CV reference) (edit: Finally I'd like to say that Sunny Day Real Estate were fucking awesome If you ever feel inclined to check out the old wave of emo, The Rising Tide was the last album they did but IMO has some of their greatest material. I've read they've recently reformed and are touring again, which for me is fantastic news regardless of whether it may be a cash in or not.) |
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Post by Billy on Sept 9, 2009 5:23:09 GMT -5
The Verve are pure tedium, with the exception of the odd track on Urban Hymns. The old stuff wasn't interesting or as wigged-out as they thought it was, and the newer stuff was department-store rock.
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Post by Nickyboi on Sept 10, 2009 1:45:21 GMT -5
Bilge and poppycock! A Storm in Heaven is excellent. The new album is shite, I'll give you that.
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Post by Beatende on Sept 10, 2009 17:52:28 GMT -5
Right, we seem to have deviated onto Indie/brit/manc band stuff now.
I like The Verve and thought their comeback headline slot at glasto was fucking immense. However, I can't get into the album either.
Now, what do you all think of the Stone Roses? There's a band that will either divide opinion, or just cause everyone to go meh a lot and get bored of the thread. ;-)
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