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Post by Nickyboi on Sept 29, 2009 9:13:19 GMT -5
I agree about gore films; stuff like Hostel is abysmal, and utterly pointless.
Dan, I'll check out those films if at all possible. I agree about that nail scene in Hellraiser - I think the sound plays a massive part in that bit. The flash cartoon Salad Fingers vaguely apes that in one of the episodes, and it makes me feel really queezy.
I think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre divides audiences because of the grindhouse madman-with-a-chainsaw bit that some people just don't find scary; but there's a psychological level to that film where they're sat around the dinner table and you see the full extent of their insanity. There's little to no humanity left in them whatsoever and that's the bit that really grips me. A lot of people don't get that, so maybe it's just me.
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Post by ad on Sept 29, 2009 12:05:07 GMT -5
Texas Chainsaw is my favourite film of all time. Braindead and Bad Taste come in the top five. And Leon, despite it being so different to anything else I like.
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Post by Beatende on Sept 29, 2009 16:19:49 GMT -5
Groundhog Day.
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Post by ed on Sept 30, 2009 7:06:32 GMT -5
I think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre divides audiences because of the grindhouse madman-with-a-chainsaw bit that some people just don't find scary; but there's a psychological level to that film where they're sat around the dinner table and you see the full extent of their insanity. There's little to no humanity left in them whatsoever and that's the bit that really grips me. A lot of people don't get that, so maybe it's just me. I've never bothered with any of the Chainsaw Massacre films, but you just convinced me to give it a try. It's that unnerving atmosphere of watching the insane that makes me love Psycho.
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Post by Evilluke on Sept 30, 2009 7:46:46 GMT -5
I can highly recommend the 1
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Post by Evilluke on Sept 30, 2009 7:50:03 GMT -5
I can highly recommend the 1st Chainsaw film, although as has been pointed out to me by numerous people who aren't fans of it, the latter half of it is mainly a girl being chased around screaming. Avoid the sequels!
I was lucky enough to meet Gunnar Hansen a few years ago at a special showing of TCM, where he was answering questions and giving a little talk. The guy is HUGE. He had some funny stories and interesting insights into the film...
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Post by Nickyboi on Sept 30, 2009 9:47:45 GMT -5
I've never bothered with any of the Chainsaw Massacre films, but you just convinced me to give it a try. It's that unnerving atmosphere of watching the insane that makes me love Psycho. As Luke says, only the original is worth bothering with. I agree about Psycho - I haven't seen that film for about a decade and it was a bit lost on me then, but it's time I gave it another go. I think watching the insane is so much more unnerving than watching something monstrous and otherworldly because on the physical resemblance to humans, even if mentally there is no connection at all. The wolf in sheep's clothing thing, I suppose. Also works with zombies. I'm not sure if people are fans of the films, but I'm very tempted to get the blu-ray versions of 28 Days & Weeks Later. I'm in the minority that prefers the latter, because of the Robert Carlyle scene, the subway scene and the frankly genius helicopter scene.
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Post by ad on Sept 30, 2009 12:37:28 GMT -5
I actually think TCM 2 and 3 both have their merits. 4, on the other hand, is shite and has a bizarre ending. Gunnar Hansen seems very self important, considering any big bloke could have done what he did. Any of the documentaries with him in he always comes across as thinking he's the shit.
28 Days and Weeks are both great. Need to see Weeks again but Days is pretty flawless. Apart from that girl who can't act for shit.
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Post by ed on Sept 30, 2009 13:42:30 GMT -5
I thought that 28 Weeks Later was totally dire, a shadow of the original. The only thing that I liked about it was that they incinerated a main character.
I agree about Event Horizon though. Great film.
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Post by Nickyboi on Oct 1, 2009 4:29:32 GMT -5
I know I'm in the minority with Weeks, but I like that it took an entirely different angle to Days and it showed something that, as far as I'm aware, no other film in the genre has tried to do - repopulation. It's perhaps not a great film, but I like that they've showed not just the apocalypse, but what happens afterwards for survivors and how people go about trying to take back control, on a large scale.
Plus, there are some amazing scenes in it - the fall-out from the subway with the soldiers having to blast everything that moves is awesome. I saw it after I read World War Z and I think it fitted in really well with that.
Has anyone seen 30 Days of Night? I enjoyed that more than I thought I would.
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Post by ed on Oct 1, 2009 6:52:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I rather enjoyed that too. I really liked the lead vampire, creepy in an old school way. I should read the graphic novel, I guess.
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Post by Nickyboi on Oct 1, 2009 9:52:44 GMT -5
Aren't they going to start production on a film version World War Z soon? It's been on the cards since 2007. I think the screenplay has been re-written twice. Could have another Alien3 on our hands... I'm not holding out for it to be a good film (I rarely do with book-to-film adaptations). It will inevitably miss out something brilliant and I'll be left to ponder the point of it all.
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Post by Beatende on Oct 1, 2009 12:39:21 GMT -5
Event Horizon could have been better. I loved that film as it was oddly fairly frightening in the same way alien managed, even if it was obviously no way near as good. I just wish there was something more to it. I dunno what it was exactly that was lacking as I liked the film. Perhaps it just didn't have a slick enough production.  Anyone seen In the Mouth of Madness? I saw that recently and again felt that it just didn't do enough.
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Post by Evilluke on Oct 1, 2009 14:31:37 GMT -5
Event Horizon is a bit lacking, some good ideas but a bit hollow. I prefer the first half, where they're all getting spooked out... the second half, when it gets gory is a bit rubbish.
I remember watching this with a friend and at the end she said 'such a big deal was made of Lawrence Fishburne sacrificing himself... but he didn't actually save anyone, did he?' which I think is a fair point.
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Post by Nickyboi on Oct 1, 2009 15:46:45 GMT -5
Luke, have you played Dead Space? I think that does an amazing job of recreating the Event Horizon atmosphere. It's fucking terrifying, to boot.
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