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Post by Beatende on Jul 14, 2009 17:22:40 GMT -5
Who here has engaged in what they consider to be occult, "magical" or otherwise "supernatural" goings on/ritual/divination etc?
I'm interested to know.
Anyone here cursed anyone? Or engaged in "black" magic? If so, did anything happen?
I've asked these questions before, and I know some on here simply don't believe in such things, which is fair enough. In a way, this thread is not really for them, though of course it is as open as any other on the board.
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Post by Nickyboi on Jul 15, 2009 2:07:22 GMT -5
I had a Paul Daniels magic kit once, does that count?
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Post by ed on Jul 15, 2009 2:45:54 GMT -5
As much as I'd love to believe in magic and the occult, I have difficulty believing anything that can't be empyrically proven.
I still find the topic interesting, though.
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Post by povey on Jul 15, 2009 4:49:01 GMT -5
I enjoy reading the occult and stuff on mythology. Whilst I cant really believe in most of the stuff I read. (its just good fantasy) I am willing to some point to accept that maybe we are not in touch with our spiritual side like we were and maybe there is something out there that we can see anymore.
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Post by Alan on Jul 15, 2009 5:49:34 GMT -5
I cast level 2 eroticism on a girl once so she'd sleep with me.
Didn't work.
Fuck magic.
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Post by povey on Jul 15, 2009 5:52:30 GMT -5
Prolly not enough mana dude and when I mean mana, I mean a roofie.
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 15, 2009 6:05:31 GMT -5
Personally I believe there's more to life than meets the eye, a bit like Transformers, and I wouldn't rule anything out at this stage in my life. I'm not entirely convinced that an open board is the right place to discuss it but hey, if you wanna talk occult, lets talk occult. I started out as a hippy pagan but now I would consider myself to be more interested in left hand path stuff. I think that anyone who publicly calls themselves a Satanist, be it a theistic Satanist (actually believes in Satan as an entity) or a LaVey Satanist, is just looking for attention. I would never use that description for myself, although I find LaVey's writings to be very interesting.
I have undertaken ritual work, and that has included the attempted use of channelling my will to make things happen. Other people may call this magic, personally I don't like the phrase as it has too many connotations with Paul Daniels and showy stage magic, sleight of hand tricks etc. Did it work? On a couple of occasions I can say that yes, it did. Whether it would have worked without my intervention I don't know, perhaps it would have, but what counts is that I tried something and it appeared to work.
I use tarot cards for divination on occasion. Sometimes what I see comes to pass, sometimes it doesn't, but it's all down to the individual choices we make. When I do a reading for someone else though I tend to start off by reading a couple of things in the cards and then read the person's body language to see how the reading should go. All professional card readers do this.
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Post by Beatende on Jul 15, 2009 13:58:20 GMT -5
I have a tarot deck that is bigger than the conventional decks, because it's older.
The links between the Tarot and Caballah were faked by Levi and Wronski. Jewish mysticism was popular at the time and this was just an elaborate ploy to popularise it even further and put it in royal favour. You may find that the bigger deck gives you a more accurate reading.
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 16, 2009 8:16:07 GMT -5
When you say it's bigger, what do you mean by that? More cards?
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Post by Charlotte on Jul 16, 2009 8:16:54 GMT -5
Also I have no interest in the Caballah - all the media attention surrounding it has given it as much magical worth in my eyes as a plastic pink barbie wand.
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Post by DeathUK on Jul 16, 2009 16:28:20 GMT -5
But if you have tried magical intervention and tarot readings and "sometimes" they came true, wouldn't that just be scientific probability playing itself out? I absolutely love the idea of magic, occult, all that stuff, but sadly I don't believe any of it to be true. I'm open to any proof of course!
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Post by Beatende on Jul 16, 2009 18:08:34 GMT -5
But if you have tried magical intervention and tarot readings and "sometimes" they came true, wouldn't that just be scientific probability playing itself out? I absolutely love the idea of magic, occult, all that stuff, but sadly I don't believe any of it to be true. I'm open to any proof of course! I've experienced one example of healing that was markedly different from any other, i.e reiki or spiritual healing(of which I have had both good and not so good experiences from. I didn't notice or feel anything at first, until I got up from where I'd been sat and felt like i was practically floating. I've felt odd after healing from conventional types before, but not like that. Certainly made a difference to a problem I'd been having too. One other one was my grandad, who had been sent home to die by the hospital. He'd got bone cancer and was on his last legs, but a neighbour (spiritual healer bloke) managed to help him. He went from being bed-ridden to back on his feet and lasted another 2 or so years. Ok sure, people yoyo that are given weeks to live, going on to prove docs wrong by themselves, but tbh this was a fucking feat, seeing as how my grandad was generally cynical of such things, and really unaware of what was going on by that stage. That event had no influence on my childhood, as my Dad only told me about it recently when I mentioned my interest in occultism. |
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Post by ed on Jul 17, 2009 2:14:32 GMT -5
Ok sure, people yoyo that are given weeks to live, going on to prove docs wrong by themselves, but tbh this was a fucking feat, seeing as how my grandad was generally cynical of such things, and really unaware of what was going on by that stage. This is interesting. It is well documented that the human body can respond negatively to the threat of death, recently after a terminal diagnosis by a doctor, and supposedly for hundreds of years by curse. The concept is the same, if the individual believes that the verdict of death is from an authority source, they will simply begin to die. A studied case involves a man who was cursed by a witch doctor in the 1920s. No medicine could help him, but when his doctor faked removing a frog after surgery the patient made a full recovery. If your Grandad was unaware of the spiritual healing, that makes the story more interesting. Still, all of the anecdotal evidence in the world wouldn't convince me that spiritual healing works in the way it allegedly does, because under scientific testing none of this stuff works. If spiritual healing was really effective, someone would have walked off with the Rhandi prize by now. |
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Post by povey on Jul 17, 2009 5:00:26 GMT -5
I shit you not there was something in my room last night. It was'nt a dream and my cats were acting well weird before I went to bed.
Looked like a little Goblin, it probably had'nt helped I watch Hellboy 2 tho.
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Post by Nickyboi on Jul 17, 2009 5:33:38 GMT -5
On a perhaps vaguely related note, is anyone familiar with Old Hag Syndrome?
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